Muddy Waters

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  Governing Body Member Stephan Lett Lies On JW.TV

  by Finkelstein in

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  i thought it would be important to clearly point in the recent talk by governing body member stephan lett, that he did in fact deliberately lie concerning what he described as lies and false information by apostates, concerning the organization being permissive toward people in the organization who had been involved in pedophilia.

  the truth of the matter is thats exactly what the organization has been doing and perhaps for a long time.

  the recent candace conti law suit where she was awarded 28 million dollars was levied against the wts for its irresponsible behavior by the elders who gave no notification of the accused jonathan kendrick that he had been charged with pedophilia and spent months in jail for his actions .

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  Hm. If I were still a practicing JW, I would be wondering how in the world the GB even knew what apostates are saying....
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  How Honest is the Official Watchtower PR Department?..Check out this You Tube Video..

  by OUTLAW in

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  most of us know the watchtower "isn`t" known for it`s honesty... what happens when a person calls watchtower headquarters... with questions the the watchtower "doesn`t" want to answer?!...

  your about to find out in this youtube video... phone call to bethel ny jehovah's watchtower productions caleb sophia video series underlying themes.

  by inform ant .

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  I don't think she phrased any question very succinctly.
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  How Honest is the Official Watchtower PR Department?..Check out this You Tube Video..

  by OUTLAW in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  most of us know the watchtower "isn`t" known for it`s honesty... what happens when a person calls watchtower headquarters... with questions the the watchtower "doesn`t" want to answer?!...

  your about to find out in this youtube video... phone call to bethel ny jehovah's watchtower productions caleb sophia video series underlying themes.

  by inform ant .

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  Hm. Not too impressed with this call, the lady didn't listen to see what anybody would say to her, she was so busy talking. :(
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  **MUST READ** AlanF's email to Knocking.org

  by sf in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is a must-read that, hopefully, will stay an "active topic" for all seekers and lurkers, by bumping it to the top as often as possible.

  alan wrote it in randys {dogpatch} thread regarding knocking.org documentary and in reply to the email mr. engardio sent to barbara anderson.

  however, it is so vital a read that it indeed needs its own thread:.

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  yw! :)
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  **MUST READ** AlanF's email to Knocking.org

  by sf in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is a must-read that, hopefully, will stay an "active topic" for all seekers and lurkers, by bumping it to the top as often as possible.

  alan wrote it in randys {dogpatch} thread regarding knocking.org documentary and in reply to the email mr. engardio sent to barbara anderson.

  however, it is so vital a read that it indeed needs its own thread:.

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  Wow, I stumbled onto this old thread, and it is a great read! I never saw the video, "Knocking", but even though it is older, would love to see it sometime. I love the way Alan F wrote so intelligently about so many of the harmful JW beliefs and their weird and extreme turn-arounds!
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  I'm sorry to inform you Mrs. Johnson, but.....you've got 'governing body'

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  mrs. johnson, our team has been working on your case for a number of weeks.

  the money disappearing from your bank account, the constant confusion about 'watchtower teachings', such as the shifting understanding of the 1914 generation, the jw.org logo that seems seems to appear in the strangest places, the singing cart song that you can't get out of your head.

  our experts have finally come to the conclusion that.

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  Muddy Waters

  - arrogant disposition

  - sinister smile

  - delusions of grandeur

  - isolation from society

  - god complex

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  Unreal

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today i watched the public witnessing cart song and a part of the february broadcasting.. it is unbelieveble how unreal the official jw message is and what do they have plastic faces on the channel.. only the good looking are shown (off course!

  ) and what a hypocrisy on their faces.. bahhhhh!.

  gorby.

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  Jehovah's celestial chariot now has 2 little wheels and racks! for all those little books and tracts - but no bibles, as usual!

  Isn't it wonderful how Jehovah's visible organization knows so much about Jehovah's thoughts that they can print all these books* & offer all these unique ways to witness to people? Aren't his happy people so proud to be a public witness cart-puller..! Yes, what a feeeeling, to go wheeeeeling....!!! It is so clearly obvious that Jehovah is blessing his people and giving them the best education ever! His lofty and holy countenance must surely shine upon these blessed faith-inspiring works of devotion....

  Ugh. Making myself nauseous.... lol.

  * books - Ecc.11:12 - "As for anything besides these, my son, be warned: To the making of many books there is no end, and much devotion to them is wearisome to the flesh." - bwhahaha!
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  No... I wasn't mind controlled

  by Zoos in

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  2. beliefs

  thou shalt not stay at a hotel that is not on the rooming list.

  work prevented me from attending our assigned district (regional) convention so i arranged my schedule to attend in a different city/weekend.

  i know that's not a problem, brothers and sisters do it all the time.

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  Too true, SailAway! I remember all that and those stupid hotel lists & instructions for calling and booking... I also followed the org's instructions "just so" and would feel terribly guilty if I missed a step or didn't follow things correctly.  Such a collosal waste of time, resources and energy!!
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  It must be of concern to the GB with all the information that is been leaked now

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was just watching cedars prank call to tomo3.

  by the way lloyd very well done and totally funny.

  but on a more serious note (and i think what must be of concern to the gb) are the amount of leaks that must be occurring at a senior level or at least by a person who has access to sensitive information.

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  As a lowly female (bwhahaha!), it has been eye-opening to get a look into the inner sanctuary, to enter into the most holy of the holies, to see behind the curtain.... to hear these secret elder's meetings, to see their secret elder's letters... to behold the inner workings of this giant (religious) corporation... and to see the bullsh*t and lies and falseness and mind-numbing boringness of many of their "qualified" speakers! 

  
  

  I was amazed to hear how many times they repeated  "You FAITHFUL, LOYAL BROTHERS" at the LDC talk (the talk where they revealed the new, commercial Kingdom Hall design) and how much more openly they talk about needing money and funds when their words are directed to a roomful of special "spiritually appointed men" ....

  
  

  
  
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  New LDC Meeting KH Video

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  been away from the site for a few days...because i have been busy getting these!!!!!!

  (pixel, thank you!

  ) they did not make it easy, plus technical difficulties.. for the main attraction:.

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  Muddy Waters

  OMG, omg..... Haven't read all comments or seen whole video, felt like was going to have anxiety attack listening to it, bastards.... 

  But omg.... the flawed logic, the tedious, tiresome explanations, their damned expounding on everything to the nth degree, their incessant nagging till you want to scream, GET TO THE POINT!!!!

  ....am only 40 min in and trying not to scream to get to the point. 

  
  

  But! Around 40 minutes in, the speaker highlight the words DESIRE & POWER as he reads a scripture, then expound upon it some more... You can tell the speaker is very excited about this. As a female, I find this "brother" to be very used-car salesman-ish. He almost shouts out the word DESIRE (when reading the scripture) to get the roomful of men excited.  He then expounds about POWER, but saying that it is power from Jehovah. It is like hearing these words all decoded now.  

  
  

  It's like when I go into my husband's sacred temple... I mean, his garage, and I see things which are on his shelf... Lubricating oils, triple penetrating lube with powerful 3-way action.... I never before realized how interesting are many of the labels on these power tool things & their lubricants. 

  
  

  This is is an amazing video for a lowly sister like me to peek into... You see the subtle and not subtle boy's-only club vibe.... and omg. I will see if I can continue to watch this while being amazed and disgusted and repulsed and nauseated all at the same time. 

  
  

  Thank you so much for posting this....!